Cleo should take a break from everything XEN and just enjoy life for a moment.
To "enjoy life for a moment" has to be a very difficult endeavor for such a toxic person.
Cleo should take a break from everything XEN and just enjoy life for a moment.
To "enjoy life for a moment" has to be a very difficult endeavor for such a toxic person.
IkennaGIfenna He did the same to RH did he not? That dude needs to be put in his place somehow. I'm not talking violence I mean the same legal things he does. I've heard he goes under several aliases like one that sticks out "hex offender" so he's known to the XENIANS as Cleo.
In a recent Twitter Spaces session I joined, I secretly hoped the moderator would either address his behavior or simply remove him from the stream. I believe the host's politeness is seriously harming experience of every new member that joins these online sessions and Xen community in a long run.
Do you all think the SEC will come after xen if X1 is successful?
genesis_1_1_1 "Couldn't care less about VMPX though" - Why so?
Just mint $Xen, things will be okay.
creeptograin For a terse explanation, the last sentence of this post will do. The rest of it goes into how VMPX, among other projects like XenBlocks, is a symptom of Jack's misaligned priorities.
Google is infamous for working on many different projects that are either short-lived or never get released to the public:
Jack is doing something similar with VMPX and XenBlocks. Raz et al. are experimenting as well, but Jack in particular has built up a reputation for hyping up projects and then abandoning them. Take a look at these tweets of people voicing their concerns:
https://x.com/Lincoln771233/status/1712057237022065031
https://x.com/cryptomumz/status/1712111416142860652
And now, look at how much Jack is trying to get people excited about XenBlocks:
https://x.com/Xencryptoio/status/1707795931532349599
Jack will try to spin anything he's working on into first principles. I think he has his priorities backwards. IMO his team needs to be working on solving problems created by centralization and lack of education rather than creating experiments and trying to say somehow it fixes a problem that doesn't exist (which is 99.9% of crypto). Ordinals and POW have very little to do with Xen, they are simply things he takes personal interest in and tries to market them as such.
If I were him I would work on decentralizing frontends and educating on minting and claiming directly from the smart contract in anticipation of malicious attacks or some other breach of security.
For example I would love to see a wallet app that actually shows the contract address you're interacting with and the actual message you're signing. Coinbase wallet has "transaction previews" that don't even work with Polygon last time I checked, and I'm sure that can somehow be spoofed. Metamask just introduced snapshots which are third party extensions, and each of those extensions needs an audit - talk about a security nightmare. FFS there's a widely used function called NiceFunctionHerePlzClick943230089
(https://medium.com/@NftDoyler/what-is-nice-function-here-plz-click-and-was-my-metamask-hacked-36759a0a2ea9) everyone minting DBXENFTs has seen. There's a ton of room for innovation/improvement there, which would also benefit Xen because its ecosystem is so heavily reliant on user interaction with smart contracts.
Education on minting/claiming directly through smart contracts would require little maintenance as the contracts are immutable.
Focusing on these things would truly embody first principles. Security and education inherently democratize fairness and opportunity. In addition to increasing overall crypto adoption, it would bring more people to Xen through that ethos. Jack himself would personally benefit from this by cleaning up his reputation from shady details such as this:
https://x.com/s3py/status/1712176388617257301
Of course, security is not sexy until something horrible happens that could have been prevented by it, there are probably some intangible marketing benefits that Jack got from taking advantage of ordinals (and by extension benefits that Xen got), Jack will do whatever he wants to do at the end of the day, and he encourages the community to build projects themselves, but many of us are not sufficiently equipped, whether its with the experience, time, or capital.
VMPX and XenBlocks just seem like polished turds on the conveyor belt of junk that Jack is constantly cranking out. It's not the bearish sentiment/price so much as it is that he's not providing updates on past projects anymore, and from this it's reasonable to interpret that they aren't being worked on at all. However, I also fully concede to the likelihood that someone will pump the shit out of them during the bull market, along with many other assets that seem like polished turds. VMPX just isn't one of my picks.
I've taken the time to digest your concerns, and while I respect your perspective, some critical points need to be addressed in defense of Jack Levin and XEN.
Proven Expertise: Let's not forget that Jack Levin isn't a newcomer to the tech scene. He was pivotal in building Google's early infrastructure. This isn't about jumping on trends; it's about a seasoned tech veteran seeing an opportunity to innovate and taking it.
XEN's Genuine Purpose: It's easy to lump all crypto projects together and label them as fleeting or without purpose. However, XEN stands apart. Jack's vision for XEN is rooted in the foundational principles of cryptocurrency. He's not just creating another token; he's trying to redefine the very essence of decentralized currency.
Evolution is Not Abandonment: In the tech world, iteration is the game's name. Projects evolve, and directions shift based on new insights and changing landscapes. This isn't abandonment; it's smart business and technological adaptation.
The Fair Crypto Foundation's Mission: The establishment of the Fair Crypto Foundation isn't a mere side project. It's a testament to Jack's commitment to decentralization and empowerment. This isn't about hype; it's about creating lasting change.
Community-Centric Approach: Jack's encouragement for community-led projects isn't a sign of abandonment. It's a call to arms, emphasizing a community's collective power over one individual's singular vision.
Security is Paramount: Your security concerns are valid, but let's give credit where it's due. XEN's design, rooted in trustless setups, showcases a forward-thinking approach to security in the crypto space.
In wrapping up, I'd urge you to look beyond the surface. Jack Levin's track record, combined with the foundational principles of XEN, paints a picture of a visionary committed to pushing the boundaries of what's possible in the crypto world. Let's respect innovation and approach projects like XEN with the open-mindedness they deserve.
Franco The Fair Crypto Foundation's Mission: The establishment of the Fair Crypto Foundation isn't a mere side project. It's a testament to Jack's commitment to decentralization and empowerment. This isn't about hype; it's about creating lasting change.
This is exactly the opposite of what Jack is doing with VMPX and XenBlocks. Your post is overall a straw man fallacy in that it fails to understand the intention of my argument and conflates it with criticizing the design of the Xen token itself.
I suggest you stop copy-pasting AI generated responses and think for yourself, or others will do it for you.
Thank you for your feedback. Let's delve deeper into the points you've raised:
The Bigger Picture: The Fair Crypto Foundation's mission isn't just a lofty ideal; it's a tangible roadmap to a decentralized future. At its core, the foundation seeks to empower individuals by breaking down the barriers that exist in the current centralized financial systems. By deploying XEN on multiple blockchains, including the X1 blockchain, the foundation strategically ensures its vision and utility are not limited by any single platform. This multi-chain approach is a testament to the foundation's commitment to true decentralization, ensuring that XEN can be accessible, usable, and beneficial across diverse crypto ecosystems.
VMPX and XenBLOCKs: VMPX stands out as a testament to Jack's unwavering commitment to decentralization and empowerment. This isn't just any bridge; it will be a decentralized and permission-free connector meticulously crafted to link Bitcoin and Ethereum. By enabling seamless asset movement between these two crypto titans without the need for centralized gatekeepers, VMPX embodies the very essence of empowerment in the crypto space. On the other hand, XenBLOCKs, serving as the POW (Proof-of-Work) component of the upcoming X1 blockchain, further underscores this commitment by ensuring a secure and decentralized consensus mechanism. Together, VMPX and XenBLOCKs showcase innovative solutions and reflect the broader vision of a crypto ecosystem where decentralization and user empowerment are at the forefront.
AI-Generated Responses: I genuinely value this dialogue and understand your concerns about the authenticity of responses. While I leverage tools to ensure accuracy and gather information, my sentiments and beliefs are mine. I'm here for a constructive conversation and am eager to address any specific concerns or questions you might have.
P.S., genesis_1_1_1, you should consider teaming up with a friendly AI to help you grasp the bigger picture. Sometimes, a digital nudge can help clear up the fog! Just a thought!
genesis_1_1_1 If I were him I would work on decentralizing frontends and educating on minting and claiming directly from the smart contract in anticipation of malicious attacks or some other breach of security.
As mentioned earlier, XEN is a project that is led by the community. Why not take a step forward and contribute to the creation of decentralized front-ends or the provision of educational content?
Franco I am contributing to the creation of decentralized front-ends and the provision of educational content, by highlighting the problems and asking the questions on a public forum with visibility and engagement. All of the topics I have started are VERY important to participants in Xen.
I think you're trying to deflect criticism from Jack back onto me. Who is the founder of the Fair Crypto Foundation, and who has publicly bound themselves to the duty of pursuing its goals? Who has the time to jump onto Twitter spaces at the drop of a hat, who can spend hours on live streams on a regular basis, who has the free time and resources to travel to crypto conferences? Who has experience writing smart contracts, making websites, managing software releases, ensuring secure entropy?
Do you want people who have no experience in construction building your house? If a doctor botches your surgery and you don't like the way it was done, why didn't you become a doctor and do the surgery yourself? You've had the time, didn't you?
Needless to say, that is all besides the salient point of your posts in this thread. Why this deflection of criticism on Jack as if he is some faultless deity? What is the end goal of this perceived damage control other than to satisfy some bizarre illusion of a parasocial relationship?
Allowing valid criticism is necessary for a community to navigate its goals intelligently. In fact, the creation of Xen and Bitcoin themselves is a criticism of traditional methods of financial self-custody. For you to attempt to stifle it is disingenuous to everyone in crypto.
I found this picture of you, care to point out which individual you are?
I welcome any replies addressing the topic of my criticisms, which is that the time and energy spent on many of Jack's projects could be better spent elsewhere in the spirit of first principles. Now that I have made my point clear, I will be ignoring any further ad hominems, as they would be arguments in bad faith.
I'm sure 50 Hexicans have already called them.
Cleo threatens SEC action then brags about the attention it brings to Xen.
Also, Cleo is hosting a spaces with Jack on Sunday.
cleo is a cry baby